statements ETSII director of Seville:
Dear colleagues, following the confusion created by the email sent by the College of Engineers of Andalusia, I like to make clear as is currently the situation on the new curriculum.
Globally, most universities are already working on the new curriculum within the European Higher Education Area, as that the rules on this is clear.
However, at the level of engineering, the subject is still blocked, mainly due to the dispute of authority between the current Technical Engineering (three years) and Advanced Engineering (five years), since in principle with the new curriculum, all graduates would be.
consensus solution that seems to be drawn is that the rating would stay with the skills of Engineers and the master with the senior engineers.
To normalize the situation, for all Engineering with professional functions (except Computer Engineering, Engineering is the only professional who has no powers) have developed what is popularly known as the tabs of the Engineering (formerly Software Verification Orders), which indicates the conditions which must be appropriate curricula leading to the award of titles that qualify for the practice of a profession of engineer. These chips are not yet finally approved, although it appears that the agreement is close.
For Computer Engineering are not prepared these notes, arguing that there is a profession with responsibilities, which come from many groups claiming repeatedly. The fact that Computer Science has no such records would cause a situation of unfairness in the Computer Engineering would be clearly disadvantaged compared to other engineering, not having a regulatory framework defining what are the skills of Engineers Computer.
This is exacerbated because other records in their respective engineering other skills that define what we could understand that is our field. Obviously this does not mean that our degree is going to disappear, as most professions do not have such records and qualifications exist, but if you place our graduates at a disadvantage compared to other engineering, which are the ones that we have to measure.
The compromise proposes that comes from the Ministry since before the summer is that while Engineering has no professional activity, if the chips could be defined with professional skills in a manner similar to other engineering. This would also have the advantage that would leave the door open for future claims in the appropriate professional authority. However, this is not just to be reflected in any role, in fact nobody is working on defining the specifications for computer engineering.
Moreover, we saw that last October 29, the Commission on Science and Innovation House of Representatives rejected (for some, but rejected) a proposal to develop the chips for computer engineering as well as begin the process to regulate the profession . Those you want to watch video from the development of this Commission, you can see it on youtube
Against this background, on Thursday 30 October, the CODDI (Conference of Deans and Heads of Computing) met in Madrid with the objective of moving to action and develop a proposal that I attached sheets. Obviously, these schedules established by the CODDI are not definitive, but it is a document in which there was consensus and we can start talking about what we want.
These cards have been delivered to the Director General of Universities, Ministry of Science and Innovation, Felipe Petriz, at a meeting held on 31 October. Petriz commended the work done by the CODDI and accepted the cards with the commitment to begin work when the other Engineering chips were resolved, at which point the government would give the proposed solution.
also held a meeting Wednesday with representatives in Congress, where they have been arguments about the discrimination they suffer our degrees with respect to other Engineering and in particular the Telecommunications. They believe that the solution
Computer Engineering goes through the transposition of European Directive on services, we have announced soon. By the CODDI not convinced that this is sufficient and therefore insisted that the quickest solution passes out the cards.
The impression drawn from these meetings is that the Ministry is looking for a solution, but we clearly see the horizon of this solution.
I have also found an interesting article on a charge of "World "
Wednesday November 5, 2008, number 529
Bologna
computer engineers, on the warpath against the Ministry of Garmendia
Less than a year and half to the end of the period of adaptation to the European higher education, skills and content of this course are not yet defined, which makes the presentation of common curricula. EMILIA
LANDALUCE
Wednesday 29 October. In the intricate world of binary code that makes up the Internet, anonymous messages buzzing with indignation: "It's hard to describe how I feel. I do not want to emigrate, but this government is making me very hard. Everywhere I look, I hear expressions like 'Society' 'Information', 'development' ...
"However, in my contract contains a job that has nothing to do with the work performance (or my degree.) In what country we live! And after what happened yesterday ... Is it too late for Computer Science? From today, I am former PSOE voters. "
This anonymous letter expresses perfectly the feeling of the 200,000 people affected by the capricious decision of the Ministry of Science and Innovation (MICINN) to reject a proposition of law that requested content and skills for Engineering Computer.
The initiative, announced on Tuesday of last week by the popular deputy Jesús Vázquez, was vetoed by 19 votes (PSOE) against, 17 for (PP and BNG), and two abstentions of CiU. But what does this mean for the group of records?
Computer Engineering is the only qualification that is subjected to a different process to verify their qualifications have not defined the cards that recognize their professional field. As an engineer in any specialty can demonstrate their knowledge by referring to a professional card in Computer Engineering graduates should not from now.
to the Conference of Directors and Deans of Informatics (CODDI), "this creates confusion in addition to discriminatory treatment that involves one of the groups of engineers in the country."
also compromises one of the main aims of the European Higher Education Area: the mobility of students. The absence of records prevents the creation of a uniform curriculum throughout the English territory and no correspondence with Europe, so that students in these degrees will be confined to their centers. CAMPUS
When asked about the controversy Pétriz Felipe, Director General of Universities, it is still had not met with representatives of the Conference of Directors and Deans of Informatics (CODDI) and wanted to avoid responsibility MICINN. "Until the profession is not regulated by the ministry that corresponds, in this case industry, we are not responsible for the development of those sheets."
For Vazquez, such an argument is no less absurd, "Chemical Engineering as a profession is not regulated itself yet it has reached an agreement to submit a curriculum." Maria Ribera Sancho
, president of the CODDI heads one of the most critical of the performance of the ministry Garmendia.
"From our point of view, the computer systems being developed today have a direct impact on safety, health and welfare of citizens and development and innovation capacity of our businesses.
In this sense, we run a risk too high if we do not ensure that the construction of these systems is carried out by highly qualified to do so, having the right skills. It would be an abdication of responsibility by our government to ignore this fact. "
An important sector for the economy
In 2000, the CODDI began work on adaptation to Bologna the titles of Computer Engineering. Even in 2004 produced a White Paper published by the Aneca title. Last Friday, during his meeting with Pétriz, presented their proposal for technical specifications, which would be taken into account when adopting the "regulation of the profession." A surprising disregard for one of the most dynamic sectors of the English economy. Higher education centers that provide hosting Information about 95,000 students, a quarter of all students of Engineering of Spain. In the 31 years of life of these studies have been called nearly 120,000 students.
Computer Science Studies are held in 81 centers spread across the entire English territory. All universities except one, include these degrees.
According to the Ministry of Industry, the computer sector revenues represent at least 1.6% of English GDP.
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